If You’re Thinking Of Buying A Butterball This Year, You May Want To Think Again
Written by Daisy // November 22, 2011 // The Makeover And/Or Miscellaneous // 62 Comments
According to this article, “customer service representatives from Butterball, one of America’s most popular Turkey brands, confirmed to WND that the company’s whole turkeys are – without being labeled as such – slaughtered according to Islamic “halal” standards.”
Subway is now offering halal meat, too, FYI.
NEAT.
And in case you don’t read sites like WorldNetDaily or AtlasShrugs or, well, our humble little blog, you probably don’t know this crap is even happening. I mean – why would you? Nowadays it’s just PC to appease Islamic folks, regardless of the fact that Christians and Jews MAKE UP THE MAJORITY OF AMERICAN CITIZENS who are enjoying an American holiday. Not a Muslim holiday. Not a Christian holiday or a Jewish holiday, even. But a freakin AMERICAN HOLIDAY.
Cue the ACLU to be silent on this one, too.
I may not be the most devout or perfect Christian in the world, but will say that I do believe it’s my right to know if my meat is being offered up to Allah. In fact, I know a lot of devout Christians and Jews that would find this practice downright OFFENSIVE (why yes, Christians and Jews are allowed to get offended, too, no matter what the ACLU says). And there’s some nifty scripture to back that whole “this is clearly offensive to me” thing, FYI.
Just so were all clear on Butterball’s stance. Screw what Christians want with their turkeys, right? I mean, who cares about a Jewish person sitting down at a Passover meal and eating halal meat. Normal. Riiiiiight. However you slice it, Christians and Jews getting halal meat are, in essence, getting a false idol in a celebratory bird on their Thanksgiving table. So let’s just call this what it is – more backdoor Shariah Law.
There. Now don’t we all feel better? Honesty is so much easier than hiding the fact that you’ve bended over backwards to be a politically-correct lemming, isn’t it, Butterball?
Nice try, jackwagons. But I’m not buying your politically correct pile of turkey.
Now someone please pass the mashed potatoes.
62 Comments on "If You’re Thinking Of Buying A Butterball This Year, You May Want To Think Again"
im eating ham
NOW you tell me.
Thanking God I bought a Jenny O turkey. Please tell me they are not doing this too!!
Who cares? As a Christian am I not allowed to have Muslim friends that I may wish to invite to my home for Thanksgiving? As Christians, aren’t we supposed to welcome and draw people near us so that we may effectively witness to them? Really, you’re going ape over a turkey? Not only am I a God fearing Christian, I’m a Conservative leaning Libertarian. It’s nonsense like this that gives the “right” a bad name.
Kelley – Who’s going ape? Just eat the freakin’ turkey. I have a choice to NOT eat it. So I won’t. I also have the choice to tell people that don’t know about this what’s going on because Butterball deems it not important to share.
If it’s not a big deal, and if you think that devout Christians and Jews don’t think this would be a big deal to them, then why isn’t Butterball stamping “certified halal” all over the birds?
Seriously. Knock yourself out. Eat the damn turkey and quit telling me that I’m giving the right a bad name for being honest about something that Butterball is unwilling to be honest about.
Happy Thanksgiving to you.
There are all kinds of kosher products on the market. In fact, tomorrow I’m going to buy kosher salt to brine my turkey (not Butterball). From what I gather, halal requirements are similar to kosher requirements. There’s a good chance that it would be more religiously problematic for a Jewish friend to eat Thanksgiving dinner with you if you served a turkey that was slaughtered conventionally than if you served a halal turkey. And with kosher wieners, kosher dill pickles, and kosher everything else widely sold in stores, I don’t see a problem with some widely consumed foods being halal.
1 Timothy 4:4-5 For everything created by God is good, and nothing is to be rejected if it is received with thanksgiving, for it is made holy by the word of God and prayer.
Wow, I need not say more. Thanks.
Good business practice. Bigger markets are better for business. Also, they have good birds.
Although, it does seem like it’d be smart for them to print on the package that it meets those specs as well as kosher standards (if it meets those).
I don’t see it as backdoor Shariah Law. It’s quiet marketing to a small customer base.
Crap…already bought a BB…
Paul doesn’t have a problem with eating meat offered to a false god or idol, his only issue is in making a weaker Christian stumble by eating said food. – 1 Corinthians 8:4–13
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1+Corinthians+8%3A4-13&version=NASB
So…. I’ve got no problems chowing down on that 15lb’er in my fridge on Thursday.
Eff Islam, butterball and everyone else that thinks we have to appease them. This is America with our own culture and if these terrorists and their sympathizers don’t like it and don’t want to assimilate they need to GTFO. I am sick of people deciding for me that I have to kiss their ass all the time. I’m fed up with all the crap. We are letting all these lunatics hiding behind religion destroy our country. Ham sounds great. I wonder how the muslims like that butchered. Ha, Ha!
Well, there’s nothing like demonstrating a complete lack of understanding regarding just about anything to do with food, religious beliefs, etc… ‘Way to be a complete public bigoted dolt.
“Halal slaughter involves cutting the trachea, the esophagus and the jugular vein and letting the blood drain out while saying, ‘Bismillah allahu akbar’ – ‘in the name of Allah the greatest,’” Jewish/kosher procedures are the same except for the blessing.
since kosher foods are labeled then halal foods should be labeled as well so we can be informed consumers.
now if we pray at the beginning of our meals and ask God to bless the meat and other foods on our tables would that negate the halal?
in regards to subway serving halal http://www.subway.co.uk/menu/halal.aspx
Incidentally, a Jewish person sitting down to Seder dinner would probably have purchased exclusively kosher foods, so they wouldn’t be in danger of accidentally consuming something halal. And Subway had (as of 2009) eleven kosher franchises with more planned.
But I agree that the omission of Butterball Turkey’s halal status seems deliberately deceptive. Not that I believe for a second that God’s going to condemn me to hell for unknowingly consuming food consecrated to “Allah” or that, by possibly causing large numbers of people to do so inadvertently, Muslims gain any meaningful territory. But the seeming deceit is still angering.
I just don’t see a problem with this. Its just marketing. Its not making the turkey any better or worse. If it makes it cost more then I just won’t buy it unless it truly is a better product. Yay capitalism!
Interesting take on this. For one I eat a lot of Kosher stuff, especially hot dogs, I like the idea of someone watching what goes into my hot dogs. I’m not Jewish, I’m about as WASPish as one could get and very much a capitalist/businessman. Consider this however. Since the company already observes Kosher and Halal is really the same procedure (although I’d probably be jihad fodder for saying this) if I were Butterball and I was already observing Kosher I’d be a fool for not including halal to increase my overall acceptance: It’s just good business, nothing more.
If they want to make their birds “halal” certified, then it’s their business, and I’m ok with that. What I am NOT ok with is the fact that that information is not easily accessible on their product, so I, as the consumer, can make an informed decision as to whether I want to support them in that or not. COTR, thank you for the information, I’ll be verifying it, and writing a letter to Butterball.
Kind of a comment for Elise and not intended as a nasty comment either but isn’t Allah one of the names of God and the names of God be they Yahweh or Allah or any of the others are just the
names of God?
I know once I pray over it – say the blessing – it’s all good, Biblically speaking. However, I’m not happy about the not telling us and not labeling it thing. That’s deceitful in my book. If I had bought one, I’d eat it. Since I didn’t, I probably won’t until they get honest.
Charles, no offense taken!
Arabic Christians do also refer to God as Allah; you’re right. I put “Allah” in quotation marks because the Muslim version of God/Allah is very different than the Judeo-Christian version. And Islam (arguably- if you’re a Muslim-) mingles facets of ancient pre-Islamic Arab paganism and so forth… So as a Christian, I don’t accept “Allah” (the Muslim version) as God. Does that make sense?
“Hallal” means “clean”
“Kosher” means “clean”
“USDA Approved” equates to the same meaning.
I don’t see the issue.
Cheerios are Hallal and Kosher. Are you going to stop eating them as well?
So is Raisin Bran.
With the exception of alcohol. anything you see with that little K or circle U on the package is Hallal and Kosher.
Being up in arms because some bit of meat is killed in a manner to reduce disease is just asinine. And that is what “Hallal” and “Kosher” are all about. I don’t see what your issue is.
In fact, I have heard many “Christians” claim that the scriptures of my faith are part of theirs. If so, it would follow that a good Christian MUST first be a good Jew. That means Kosher. Your god, Yeshua ben Yusef of Nazareth was, after all, a Jew. And your faith dictates you do your best to live your life by his standards. He was a rabbi, and followed the Kosher laws.
(Now here come the letters written by Saul of Tarsus… sorry, that was Saul/Paul and NOT your messiah).
And yes, I am a Jew who follows the kosher laws. I also am probably much more of an expert on Arabic culture than most of the people here. (How many have been to the following multiple times: Jordan, Sudan, Yemen, Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, Dubai, Qatar? How many of you speak Arabic?
In fact, since 2001, I have spent more time in Arab and Muslim countries than I have in the US. I was there FOR the US.
I almost pity you bigots… saddest thing is you have no idea how foolish you appear to normal, decent people.
I get it ..Daisy. I am expat of UK…it’s the small things that creep in but not such a big deal…then you have whole communities requesting (then demanding) Islam schools, markets, housing(on gov dole), and then comes ‘the rights of Islams’.. employers must allow for prayer ( on the clock), business and schools should provide an area for prayer. Now here’s the biggy.. Sharia courts .. so a turkey blessed in a false idol maybe small now…but I assure you it’s only the beginning.
Why do right wing “chicks”, every time they write a blog, feel they have to sound bitchy ?
This is NOT just about the turkey and Islam; it’s about HOW the turkeys are slaughtered in order to COMPLY with Islam. Whether you’re an animal lover or not, there are more human ways to kill a turkey that don’t involve blood-letting akin to a slasher movie.
Cue the crickets from PETA….
Oh, and BTW; I don’t support Subway anymore since they started using a dog killer as a spokesperson; so them using Islamic-approved and slaughtered meat is just another reason to keep my children away from them.
Happy Thanksgiving and thanks for keeping us all informed!
Ginny. read their purpose of starting the blog. I needed an outlet to voice my sarcasm and snarkinessium ( made up word) approach to the left ‘s rhetoric. Gawd , the left have institutionalized education, Hollywood, unions, major networks, and media. If we sound ” bitchy” on this blog is because we have children that will inherit this mess . I believe laughter helps..or we would all be crying.
Acts 15:29 tells us to abstain from meats sacraficed from idols. In our ignorance it was fine to eat – that is, before we knew what Butterball was doing. Now that we (christians) know…we need to abstain and buy different turkeys.
Thanks for the heads up.
“As a Christian am I not allowed to have Muslim friends that I may wish to invite to my home for Thanksgiving?”
Hey Dhimmii, make sure you get a dotted line tattoo on your neck before your “friends” come over, that way when they do their Halal thing on you it will go quicker for you.
Halal is just another bull**** religious theft by muslims.
Kosher slaughter requires that the blade be ultra sharp and free of any nicks, and that the animal is to be slaughtered so fast and in one fast cut so that the blood runs out from the brain immediately and the animal feels nothing.
The blade is inspected between each use and if found to be not sharp or have even one nick, the animal previously butchered is declared non-kosher and can only be then parted out as non-kosher (for less $).
Halal, on the other hand, has no such requirements, and there are videos out there of the jihadi butchers sawing and hacking away as the animal freaks out and dies in pain.
PERFECT FOR ISLAM, the “religion” of death.
“With the exception of alcohol. anything you see with that little K or circle U on the package is Hallal and Kosher.”
BULL****.
PLain K is NOT KOSHER (and certainly not hallal), its FAKE kosher.
“Circle U” = OU as any REAL JEW knows and calls it.
Many muslims WILL eat kosher food, but NO REAL KOSHER KEEPING JEWS will eat halal.
“Being up in arms because some bit of meat is killed in a manner to reduce disease is just asinine. And that is what “Hallal” and “Kosher” are all about. I don’t see what your issue is.”
You’re a moron or a liar. Kosher means “fit”, “proper” or “correct” not “clean”.
“Your god, Yeshua ben Yusef of Nazareth was, after all, a Jew.”
“ben Yusef”? That’s arabic, and you’re no Jew, you’re a muslim pretending to be a Jew.
“And yes, I am a Jew who follows the kosher laws.”
You’re a liar or an idiot who doesn’t even know what kosher is.
” I also am probably much more of an expert on Arabic culture than most of the people here. (How many have been to the following multiple times: Jordan, Sudan, Yemen, Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, Dubai, Qatar? How many of you speak Arabic?”
Then I guess you NEVER GO TO ISRAEL, since none of those arab countries will let a Jew with Israel stamped on his passport enter their precious muslim lands.
Allah crackhead, you jackass. We learned all we need to know about “arabic culture”
ON 9/11.
I doubt turkey would be served at a Passover meal.
I feel ya frustration, though. (Good thing I’m not coking the turkey.)
I don’t look at this as what method of killing the bird has to do with a particular religion. The point I see is too many people in America are willing to give away our culture and traditions to Islam. Of course the turkey is not going to taste any different but I want an American company to cater to Americans first. If they choose not to, then I would expect them to be upfront about it. Just identify the turkeys as such. Butterball has the right to do as they want with the turkeys but deceiving the public is unacceptable. If they are praying to allah or anything to do with islam then I want to know so I can elect out. It is little steps like this each day that people treat as no big deal until one day they all add up and you realize you’re under sharia law.
we kill and butcher our own… it’s just how we roll…
friends of ours raise & slaughter their own meat ducks.. want me to tell you how they kill them?
It involves a snubbie .38 and a welders glove (so you don’t get powder burns)…
Your blog sucks, and you are dumb as all hell.
Aww, thanks for elevating the discourse, Jones.
Jpeditor — Your “discourse” is so full of falsehoods and baseless lies that all you did was prove your own myopic ignorance.
Yes, I have been to Israel, on vacation, by choice. Tel Aviv can be an awesome city, if you know where to go. I lived in the others for much longer, for work.
As far as the various markings from various rabbinic councils, they are all considered kosher. But I also know that some councils will debate the validity of the others. That’s why you’ll see multiple markings on some products like Cheerios and Coffeemate.
John D — That is the best way.
I am going to wash and re-bless my turkey and complain to Butterball about this practice especially the coverup aspect of it. Things should be out in the open so we can make an informed choice.
OKAAAYYYYY…So maybe someone can answer this little question: If this is NOT a case of creeping Sharia, why not just advertise the turkeys as being Halal and let the general population decide if they are OK with it?
Wouldn’t approval by silence count as consent when Sharia gets a good foot hold into the American Judiciary process and thus set a precedent? (someone please correct me if I’m wrong..I’m NOT a lawyer, I’m a rocket scientist ;-p )
just posted your story on butterballs fartbook wall and added “you cant ake your muslime terrorist appeasing turkey and shove it up your butterball!”
If you’ve ever seen the hal’al animal torture exercise, I suggest you google it. Watch in horror as lambs are thrown onto a “V” shaped kill table, then throat sawed, not a single, clean slash mind you, then meat hooked through their achilles tendon while bleating and bleeding; obviously frightened and then they are lifted up to the ceiling and assembly lined to another room for actual skinning and eviceration, hopefully NOT while alive. They also show a cow being throat sawed while in a holding maching that forced its head back and then rotated to tip the cow upside down, while it suffocated in its own blood.
Conversely this particular video I found, started with a mid-western style stun gunning of a cow that was dead before it hit the floor. This is animal abuse of the highest order and we are playing dhimmi(voluntarily submissive), to the muslim, by allowing this carnage to occur.
Many food stores are in on the hal’al marketing, selling Americans out to the muslim for their profit margins.
Thank you, Carolyn. I started to think that I was just being very, very unclear from all the meds I’ve been on after sinus surgery-roto-rooter-of-my-head last week.
Ginny -
. I suppose we could smile and be nice all the time and never speak up and sit in our little corners like good, conservative women should and then not have anything to write about, but that would make for a pretty empty space out here. And it wouldn’t be true to who I am, at least. I’ve never been much of a wallflower. If something pisses me off, I write about it here. It’s my outlet, as I believe it’s Mock’s, too. If you’ve followed our blog here at all for more than a day, you’ll know that I dislike underhandedness or dishonesty of any kind. So, in this specific case, I would like Butterball to just go ahead and stamp the turkeys. That’s it. Then, folks can decide whether or not they want to buy it. If it’s a marketing thing, do it with some freakin’ integrity and stand behind what you’re doing. And that means being forthright about it. In doing so, will I still think it’s back-door Shariah Law? You bet your butt, I will. But that’s just me and me ONLY. I only represent myself and don’t expect people to agree with me. Believe me. That would be a pretty lofty goal. You have no idea. 
Sounding “bitchy” comes with the really thick skin we get from years of abuse for having a conservative blog. It’s a by-product of being called things like, well, bitchy, I guess.
To Jones:
For the tremendous thought you provided in your comment, I would like to personally invite you to go forth and pursue relations of a sexual nature with yourself!
I thought “slaughter according to Islamic standards” meant they gas the turkeys with nerve gas, or pack them onto an airplane and fly the turkey ridden airplane into a Wolrd Trade Center.
But then again, I’m an Angry Bitter While Male White Supremist Race Hating Racist, so what would you expect.
I’m having duck, slaughtered accoding to mafia standards (I sneak up on the thing and put two .22s into its head, then drive away, dispose of the gun, and buy a fresh duck at the local market).
There are a lot better reasons not to eat a Butterball turkey than whether or not a rabbi was on hand when it was killed. Factory farming, antibiotics and steroids added to feed and injected into the growing birds, and saltwater injections during processing, for starters. They’re also completely unnatural birds, the Frankenstein monsters of the poultry world. But if it gets people to stop supporting an agribusiness that produces factory-farmed Frankenbirds, then I’m 100% for boycotting Butterball because they cater to one Semitic tribe’s arcane food laws but not the other one’s.
Daisy: I am a Republican conservative that subscribed to your blog because I agreed with many of your comments. I will never again return to your blog after reading your xenophobic post here today. As a parting gift, let me tell you why you are wrong:
1) What occurs in the business market makes no difference in the courts. Therefore, this reference to Sharia law is misplaced.
2) Companies only care about making their product marketable and sellable to as many people as they can. Why would Butterball NOT follow certain traditions which only increase the number of people willing to purchase their product by adding Muslims?
3) Of course Butterball wouldn’t advertise the Muslim fact to non-Muslims due to the concern regarding Muslim extremists among the American general population. At this point, the number of anti-Muslims surely exceeds the number of Muslims that care about keeping “Kosher” on Thanksgiving in America.
4) The bottom line is that you want to boycott a product because they tried to make it an acceptable product for those that have different religious beliefs from you. There is no harm in doing so, and you should be ashamed of yourself.
In summary, Daisy, “what you’ve just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone on this blog is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul. “
Question: Why would Butterball go to the trouble of making their turkeys Halal certified, but then not let anyone know that it is so? How are they going to market to Muslims if their turkeys are not advertised as Halal certified? I can see a capitalism angle if this were being advertised, but if it is kept secret, what is the purpose? Has the Butterball organization been infiltrated by devious Muslims who what Christians to eat meat “sacrificed to idols” without their being aware of it? Something about this is not adding up.
As a company Butterball has a right to gain more market share. I agree with that.
However this falls under the vein of Cinco De Mayo. This is marketing for the all mighty dollar without any morality to undermine our country. Whether it is intentional or not, the net effect is the same. No assimilation.
So while Butterball has the right to do this, I also have the right to not purchase along with every American.
Lori in Ca: Ditto!!!!
Mike: I would be willing to bet that they advertise in Muslim communities.
P-G: “In fact, I have heard many “Christians” claim that the scriptures of my faith are part of theirs. If so, it would follow that a good Christian MUST first be a good Jew. That means Kosher. Your god, Yeshua ben Yusef of Nazareth was, after all, a Jew. And your faith dictates you do your best to live your life by his standards. He was a rabbi, and followed the Kosher laws. ”
That is incorrect religiously as well as historically. What did Christ say about eating unclean?
And before you get on your high horse I lived in Saudi Arabia for three years and yes I have been to all of those countries.
Actually, Laurel (and P-G), if I remember my Gospels correctly, Yeshua made it very clear that he thought all the arcane nit-picky laws of his forebears were rather silly, and that there were really only ten laws that really needed to be followed, starting with “Thou shalt have no other Gods before Me.” And that’s pretty much why Christian folk don’t bother much with keeping kosher, unless they’re having observant Jews over for dinner and want to be good hosts.
Lori in CA: Correct.
“Its not what goes into a man’s mouth that makes him unclean, but what comes out.” That was said by Christ and Jews and Muslims don’t follow Christ. But that is why we don’t keep kosher or halal.
Kosher and halal came about for sanitary purposes and were rolled into religion to get people to comply. There is also ritualistic aspects of them both in keeping with their religions.
Same thing actually happens in Christianity but on different issues. Rituals have a way of bringing certainty and comfort to religion and the people who practice it. That is why Catholicism itself has many rituals.
I must admit I can see how it brings comfort to many.
Laurel:
“This is marketing for the all mighty dollar without any morality to undermine our country. Whether it is intentional or not, the net effect is the same.”
Last I checked, America was a meltinig pot that wanted to be open to all faiths and beliefs, offering food to those faiths fits well within America’s greatness. In fact, Thanksgiving is nominally about the welcoming of people of different values (pilgrims) by the Indians,. Sounds a bit like Americans welcoming Muslims, and their culture, to our great land.
You state that this type of deal is “without any morality”. This is less amoral than going to Target or any other shopping store to celebrate consumerism and purchase Christmas gifts for your family. Do you boycott those too?
We are having ham. Killed in Muslim standards… we put a bag over its head. Buried it in the sand and stoned it to death. It wondered off with out a male escort so… it had it coming.
Good post chicks.. nothing says you hit a nerve like when the trolls turn up! Kudos!
Hum… I don’t really care how Butterball slaughters its birds. Their little Islamic prayer / method is absolultely meaningless to me. The bird is dead and we can eat it. I don’t share their faith and the value of that little prayer/method – and the God I worship doesn’t recognize it either. It’s all empty ritual to me. On a side note, I buy my Turkey (turducken this year!) from a LOCAL business. Butterball is overrated anyway.
Paul: Put your rampant emotionalism in check and tell me where in the hell I ever said anything about a boycott???
What I said it is a marketing ploy like so many marketing ploys in this country without any thought as to the consequences. It is an extension of a deeper problem. This halal turkey stems from marketing to other cultures for money. It worked for Cinco De Mayo, why shouldn’t it work now?
Yes we welcome all faiths but we also demand a certain amount of conformity.
Now an opposing argument can be made that in this instance halal turkey actually helps with assimilation. There is a flip side to that coin and a case can be made. I am only speaking to where the thinking stems from.
This comment is just plain stupid on your part…”You state that this type of deal is “without any morality”. This is less amoral than going to Target or any other shopping store to celebrate consumerism and purchase Christmas gifts for your family. Do you boycott those too?”
Rampant consumerism being moral or immoral is strictly your opinion replete with assumption. Since when is saving money immoral? Since when is people who make this a family or friend tradition and fun time together immoral? For many it is merely entertainment, for others it is about getting something nice for someone at an affordable price. When you are short on money it is smart thinking IMO.
And No I don’t participate in Black Friday. My family purchases very little for Christmas because for us it isn’t what Christmas is about. Also I don’t purchase Butterball, and haven’t for years because I think their turkeys are not of good quality. I buy from a local farm here that specializes in turkey without all of the additives. I agree with Lori….they are Frankenstein turkeys.
I also thought you said you were done with COTR! For someone who is here ranting and railing against boycotts you sure are quick to throw down the boycott card.
It’s fairly irrelevant, but I do find it a bit gleefully ironic that Israel eats more turkey per capita than any other country on the planet.
http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_country_eats_the_most_turkey_per_capita
Ooooooohhhhh, so THAT’S why I was thrown out of Albertsons! I tried to buy a turkey and a honey baked ham, and had them in the same shopping cart. They said I had to leave and buy them separately so as not to offend the muslim community. Then they kicked me out again, because I went in to get the turkey, and had a bottle of jack daniels in the cart next to it. Shame on me for not being so culturally sensitive!
Now, if you’ll excuse me, I’m going to go beat my wife. At least I know that the Muslims are cool with that.
http://www.prophecynewswatch.com/2011/November22/2263.html
NOT a religion of Peace! So THANKFUL my Turkey is NOT a Butterball!
Jpeditor: (assuming you’re a man) Marry me? hahahahahaha
“Jpeditor — Your “discourse” is so full of falsehoods and baseless lies that all you did was prove your own myopic ignorance.”
Really? SOURCE AND PROVE ONE STATEMENT I made on Kashrus is a lie.
You wrote:
“With the exception of alcohol. anything you see with that little K or circle U on the package is Hallal and Kosher”.
You’re such an idiot it is beyond belief. The plain K with no tablets, triangles or circles around it is NOT from any kosher certifying agency, it is simply from the manufacturer and not even MUSLIMS WHO EAT STRICT HALAL will accept that food as KOSHER.
NO JEWISH KOSHER SYMBOL CONFERS HALAL STATUS, you jackass.
Look it up. the fact is that SOME muslims will eat Kosher certified food because they know kosher standards are STRICTER than Halal, but NO KOSHER JEWS WILL EAT / ACCEPT HALAL STANDARDS, and no Christians should either.
ALLAH CRACKBAR, achmed, or whatever your name is.
PS -Sorry Kelsie, but I am sure my wife appreciates your thoughts….( : >)
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